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Eckhart2

Thanks for replying.
I understand the difference between shameless and shamefulness.
But whose shamefulness? The person who is asking for bread on behalf of his unexpected guest or the one who just woke up?
And please check this out.
http://www.workingpreacher.org/preaching.aspx?commentary_id=1724
Min-Goo

David Ewart

Hi Min-Goo. No, they do mean shamefulness.

A person who is shameless does not experience shame when they ought to. So a shameless person would not get up.

But a shameful person - that is, one who experiences shame when they ought to - will get up because a feeling of shame compels them to act honourably and protect their good name.

Eckhart2

Hi David,

I really enjoy your blog.
I need a clarification.
I think what Malina and Rohrbaugh mean is that NRSV's "persistence" would be better translated as "shamelessness" not "shamefulness", so that Verse 8 would read:

I tell you, even though.....
because of shamelessness he will get up and give him....

I personally think that would make more sense.
Thanks, Min-Goo

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